[[Final note: read my important third post about this topic, hopefully the last time I will have to comment on it, before you read this one]]
This is the latest episode in the recent drama of cache hijacking and Ancestry.com's Internet Biographical Collection. Ancestry.com announced this afternoon (August 29th) that they are (at least for now) removing the entire collection.
Checking for myself, indeed they have done just that. (Later on the search box itself still existed without a name and it sometimes worked. Even later on the database with all its links and search ability were indeed completely removed).
Kudos, Ancestry.com with some caveats (comments here addressed TO Ancestry.com or the Generations Network...)
Speaking as someone, who prior to this event, held you in the highest esteem.... when you make a final decision on what to do with the so-called "Internet Biographical Collection," DO consider more than just what is technically legal and therefore what you can get away with without getting justly sued.
Consider the goodwill of your customers, and your affiliates, and the general genealogical community. They are what make you a success. Without them you will fail in more ways than just losing money.
I had written and sent an email this morning to NEHGS, that New England organization that I have also been associated with for several years. The context of the email said: "I can understand NEHGS's wish to ally themselves with a highly-respected genealogy research service in order to provide more active content. However I might warn you that NEHGS's possible alliance with Ancestry.com is a bit like the fox (Ancestry) going to bed with the chicken (NEHGS). In the morning, there may only be a few feathers left on your side of the bed."
I do urge you that in your future decisions and relationships, you will not create a horrifying realization in us that we have gone to bed with the fox. As an optimistic, non-litigious person, I feel that you did a very good thing today by removing that database. But, as John from Cincinnati said, "I've got my eye on you!"
Janice Brown
Blog: Cow Hampshire
PS: I have also taken the precaution to add a robots.txt file to my blog so that from today, based on current information about Ancestry.com's bots, their bot will not be able to cache or snag any current or future posts. And as always, this entire article is my OPINION.
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Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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footnoteMaven
on Wed 29 Aug 2007 09:13 PM EDT | Permanent Link
You did a terrific job of standing up for yourself and our community. Yes, Ancestry has done the right thing and my prized rhododendron and your cow are safe for now.
Have they learned anything from this? That remains to be seen. So David, keep your eye on Goliath. fM P.S. I'm a John from Cincinnati fan! Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Wed 29 Aug 2007 09:33 PM EDT | Permanent Link
fM,
To be honest, I am so proud of you, and all of my blogging friends who took a stand (either way) about the "database" in question. I don't at all feel like the David of Goliath fame, nor would I seek that role. I was raised by parents who taught me the difference between right and wrong, and also that if you don't speak up, then you are not very different from the person who actually performed the negative action. The best I can possibly wish for in this scenario is that the "Internet Biographical Collection" and "John from Cincinnati" will share the same fate. John from Cincinnati was permanently canceled. Janice Re: Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Wed 29 Aug 2007 09:52 PM EDT | Permanent Link
I have to qualify this... I actually DID enjoy watching John from Cincinnati, even though the last few episodes were so strange I had to watch them more than once in order to understand the plot, and even then I'm not sure I was successful lol.
Janice Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Becky Wiseman
on Wed 29 Aug 2007 09:31 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Janice, I'm with you. I think it is only a temporary removal. I've got a second post on Speculation regarding the "IBC" and Ancestry because the database is still out there although it doesn't show up in a standard search.
Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Wed 29 Aug 2007 09:46 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Becky,
Being the optimistic person I am, for now I am taking Ancestry at their word and waiting to see what they will do. The glaring disclaimer against Ancestry.com's use of my blog cache that I had at the top of my blog is very easy to put back (I can do it in 15 seconds, blindfolded). I don't expect after all the work and money Ancestry invested in the "database", and after bragging about their patents and all, that they will just want to toss out the entire database cache (although doing exactly that would resolve ALL of the grievances currently pending about it). Janice Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Shannon
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 09:16 AM EDT | Permanent Link
Janice, thank you for all the information you've posted here...its really helped me get up to date and I since I found it the most useful, your blog is the one I've linked to on my site so that my members can read up on all of this, because you said things way better than I could.
As of right now, the "collection" isnt in the card catalog, but if you had it bookmarked, you can still search it, and view the records from the results Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 10:00 AM EDT | Permanent Link
Shannon,
Thank you for the link and the kind words. One good thing that has come out of the recent crisis is that I'm learning about (and NOT through that infamous database) many more genealogists on the internet who are as concerned as I am about the integrity of our blogs and web sites. Janice Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Willie Puckerbrush
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 10:25 AM EDT | Permanent Link
I'm glad your cows have all come home.
Willie Puckerbrush Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 10:59 AM EDT | Permanent Link
Willie,
ROFL! Actually just ONE cow... the spotted gal in my banner. I almost entitled my article "Ancestry.com Abducts Cow," but then my blog traffic might be a different crowd. Janice Re: Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Anonymous
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 02:55 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Janice, It makes no difference if them rustlers took one ole cow or a whole herd --- rustlers should be hung or at least branded on the butt with a red hot iron that says "I steal copyrighted works" --- yep, them rustlers are taking back water and countin' how much this little mistake cost them.
Willie Puckerbrush Re: Re: Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 03:11 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Hahahahaha Willy. You do bring a smile to my lips today.
I agree, in the old west, cow rustlers (thieves) would have been branded on the butt. If you can manage to round up the actual rustlers, I will be glad to hold them down for branding. Janice Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Anonymous
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 06:58 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Janice, Your relentless pursuit of this story probably was the driving force behind Ancestry backing off...I discovered my family website was hijacked too and I thank you for your efforts...I also loved your cow and mouse graphic - it cracked me up!
Tim Agazio Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 08:08 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Tim,
You give me way too much credit. If you look at the long list of the genealogy bloggers who got involved, add to that many many folks who have free genealogy web sites who voiced their concern on various message boards, and wrote emails to the company or to the customer service reps.... you end up with a large number of people who were willing to take a stand for what is right. Collectively we made an impact. I just hope it lasts. I'm glad you enjoyed my cow/mouse graphic... my sense of humor is wacky sometimes :D Janice Re: Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Steve Danko
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 09:30 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Janice, I agree with Tim. You took the initiative to let people know their blogs had been cached and I am very grateful you did. Thanks for all your efforts.
Steve Danko Re: Re: Re: Re: Ancestry.com Puts the Cow Back In The Barn (For Now)
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Janice Brown
on Thu 30 Aug 2007 09:50 PM EDT | Permanent Link
Steve,
Your welcome. I enjoyed reading your take on some of the legal aspects of copyright. And, while I have your attention. I'm not sure you ever saw this post.... and I am still waiting for you to write your article "Steve's Guide to Translating Illegible Handwriting." Janice Trackbacks
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